💯 very difficult times to be an intelligent lesbian or a Jew, or worse an intelligent Jewish lesbian in the diaspora. Always a pleasure to read your cogent essays.
Im a straight Irish Catholic man. I will one day go to the Tel Aviv Pride festival. It sounds wonderful.
I am sickened by what is happening to my Jewish brothers and sisters. This is how I refer to you all when talking to fellow Catholics. To devotees of the Virgin Mary I say ' isn't great to have a Jewish mother?!'.
Great writing Eve, as ever. Stay safe from the nutcases please. We all need your continuing courage.
The fact that of all the groups coming for our blood it is the Gays is probably the most bad acid trip part of the last two or 25 years. Joan Rivers would be so fucking horrified she would need to buy a new face. Harvey Milk would cry. But, Roy Cohn would probably not at all be surprised.
I miss Joan Rivers, her daughter produced a documentary about her mother, adhearing to Joan’s request to ‘wait until I’m dead, to do it!’ Joan was the most brilliant comedian, I believe the show is streaming on Peacock soon.
I adore her, and I watched it, it's FABULOUS! You MUST see it. Did you know she wrote 70,000 jokes over her career, and kept them organized and stored in a library card catalog cabinet? Brilliant woman, and eternal Jewish icon.
Hi Autumn-thanks for the update I can’t wait to see the show. I did know about her catalogue of jokes. I agree about Joan. She had a great joke about the Jews -she said oh that Moses getting the Jews lost, now if a woman would have been in charge, they would have found their way out immediately ! Take care 🇮🇱❤️
Happy Pride Eve .🌈 Right there with you ..so glad I found you. You make my life more meaningful just knowing you exist and have the power to speak out.
"Reader, I will DIE ALONE before I make a first move." This line made me laugh more than it should of.
I am actually quite shocked you haven't been snatched up yet because you are so normal. (Like, you're really normal). I don't even tell people I'm a gay anymore, but it's not because I'm not proud of who I am. It's because the majority of the lesbian populace has turned into a cesspool of batshit cray cray women, and I don't want to be affiliated with that. 🤪 So most peeps think I'm straight. Oh well.
I’m sorry about your experiences out there! My wife have been together ( well off and on ) for 34 years. It hasn’t always been easy, but we are lucky we live in the Castro, and there is less homophobia here, than say some of the southern states. But no matter where I live, it’s not easy. Most people think we’re ‘sisters’ when we are out in public, until we give them a lessie show. LOL!
"Sidenote: There are never any stickers celebrating women - only screams about abortion rights."
Or "reproductive rights"——an abstraction effacing women altogether.
This Age of Pity as you so rightly call it has also become the Age of Piety, of Pious Pride. Pious Pride in one's ability to cosplay terrorists, proclaim one's queerness, and come out, all right, every day and every way—as staunchly anti-Jew.
Another really special column Eve, thank you. When you look at liberal (fairness/freedom/anti-ism’s) Jews were at the forefront. We put ourselves in the way of harm to stand up for those society has marginalized. Pick a movement. MLK and anti-racism where Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner died standing up against racism ; Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem leaders of the feminist movement ; Larry Kramer and the fight for more AIDS research: these were Jews and Jewish leaders who at the forefront of the movements and put themselves in danger fighting for rights of those mass society wanted quieted.
But who is standing for Jews today? There are a few, Ritchie Torres being very prominent. But the list is very short. Why is that? It’s a serious question, why is that.
However, we have been on G-d’s green earth for over 5,000 years despite those who want us gone. We will fight for another 5,000.
Really interesting piece, Eve. I’ve always been supportive of the black and gay communities - and seeing them embrace antisemitism over the past 20 months has been extremely confusing and heartbreaking. 😞
"Milk" is a good movie, and not one I had expected to like when I first watched it, especially because Sean Penn is a gigantic POS. Even as a straight white guy, it's heartbreaking. I highly recommend it.
Remember that Pride is deadly sin. Humility is a virtue. One of the first things that Rachel Goldberg-Polin (mother of slain hostage, Hersh) said at this years commencement at Yeshiva University was that she was "humbled." It's a must watch.
To Dana K: How proud is too proud? When does being proud turn into being a sin? Isn't being straight and thinking that you're above all gay people also a sin? Is it sinful that I don't want to be affiliated with batshit crazy gay people even though I'm gay? Who is more sinful? The batshit crazy gay person? The normal acting gay person? Or the straight person who has gotten a get out jail free card, since the dawn of time, just because they're straight?
2. You didn't happen to include in your list of attributes for that hetero thingee that it's still the only way to reproduce.
3. I don't understand why it's any of my business what you -- or anyone else does in the bedroom as long it is mutually consensual -- which by definition excludes children.
Where were you 12-15 years ago that gay people were so marginalized? Over 40 years ago I was at Stanford Med School where some of the most respected folks-residents, faculty-were gay. 5 years later I worked with gay activists and heard their stories as we worked on AIDS treatments together. Maybe it was the Bay Area, but as a cis-het male, gay and lesbian colleagues were colleagues first. Hell, 15 years ago, in Pennsylvania I had a colleague from another country working in one of the biggest drug companies in the world who was obviously trans, and just did her job and was respected.
The 80s and 90s and 00s may seem like ancient history but at least where I worked. in medicine, medical research, and corporate drug development the ones in the closet were the homophobes.
(but not so much the 60s and 70s, where the were absolutely as you say). in 1980, at a Jesuit medical school a lesbian professor (and assiciate dean) spearheaded a humanizing approach and I was very proud to help her.
It was definitely bad in some places, but not everywhere.
As Miss Manners would have said— ´HOW VERY NICE FOR YOU’ I’m not in the Medical FIELD, nor am I a cis-straight male. I’m a lesbian from an early age whose mother freaked out when I was about 4-5 years old in 1957 because she realized I fancied girls. Despite forcing me into plastic ( fake ) patent leather shoes, little frilly short dresses, and trying to make me walk like ‘a lady’ dressing me up like her hero Shirley Temple the bratty little sickningly sweet child actress who oozed girly charm never managed to change me into a Barbie Doll loving sweet straight woman. So, my experiences and those of my friends were infinitély different. Despite growing up during and living through the Sex, Drugs and Rock-n-Roll era. I lived in many cities and held a variety of jobs and everwhere I went, homophobia ran rampant. From sophisticated Law Firms, Magazines, Ad Agencies, Design Firms, The State of California, so perhaps you led a sheltered existance, after all. 😎🇮🇱❤️
💯 very difficult times to be an intelligent lesbian or a Jew, or worse an intelligent Jewish lesbian in the diaspora. Always a pleasure to read your cogent essays.
Im a straight Irish Catholic man. I will one day go to the Tel Aviv Pride festival. It sounds wonderful.
I am sickened by what is happening to my Jewish brothers and sisters. This is how I refer to you all when talking to fellow Catholics. To devotees of the Virgin Mary I say ' isn't great to have a Jewish mother?!'.
Great writing Eve, as ever. Stay safe from the nutcases please. We all need your continuing courage.
The fact that of all the groups coming for our blood it is the Gays is probably the most bad acid trip part of the last two or 25 years. Joan Rivers would be so fucking horrified she would need to buy a new face. Harvey Milk would cry. But, Roy Cohn would probably not at all be surprised.
I miss Joan Rivers, her daughter produced a documentary about her mother, adhearing to Joan’s request to ‘wait until I’m dead, to do it!’ Joan was the most brilliant comedian, I believe the show is streaming on Peacock soon.
I adore her, and I watched it, it's FABULOUS! You MUST see it. Did you know she wrote 70,000 jokes over her career, and kept them organized and stored in a library card catalog cabinet? Brilliant woman, and eternal Jewish icon.
Hi Autumn-thanks for the update I can’t wait to see the show. I did know about her catalogue of jokes. I agree about Joan. She had a great joke about the Jews -she said oh that Moses getting the Jews lost, now if a woman would have been in charge, they would have found their way out immediately ! Take care 🇮🇱❤️
Happy Pride Eve .🌈 Right there with you ..so glad I found you. You make my life more meaningful just knowing you exist and have the power to speak out.
"Reader, I will DIE ALONE before I make a first move." This line made me laugh more than it should of.
I am actually quite shocked you haven't been snatched up yet because you are so normal. (Like, you're really normal). I don't even tell people I'm a gay anymore, but it's not because I'm not proud of who I am. It's because the majority of the lesbian populace has turned into a cesspool of batshit cray cray women, and I don't want to be affiliated with that. 🤪 So most peeps think I'm straight. Oh well.
I’m shocked Eve doesn’t have a line of beautiful, intelligent, creative women knocking at her door ( just like she is! )!!
I have a crush on Eve, but I don’t know if she dates bisexual women,😅. I love her writing…each piece amazes me.
I’m sorry about your experiences out there! My wife have been together ( well off and on ) for 34 years. It hasn’t always been easy, but we are lucky we live in the Castro, and there is less homophobia here, than say some of the southern states. But no matter where I live, it’s not easy. Most people think we’re ‘sisters’ when we are out in public, until we give them a lessie show. LOL!
We live in such a dystopian, f’ed up world right now.
This essay is worthy of a Pulitzer, Eve!
Yes indeed! Where is Eve’s Pulitzer, already!!
Brilliant!
"Sidenote: There are never any stickers celebrating women - only screams about abortion rights."
Or "reproductive rights"——an abstraction effacing women altogether.
This Age of Pity as you so rightly call it has also become the Age of Piety, of Pious Pride. Pious Pride in one's ability to cosplay terrorists, proclaim one's queerness, and come out, all right, every day and every way—as staunchly anti-Jew.
Another really special column Eve, thank you. When you look at liberal (fairness/freedom/anti-ism’s) Jews were at the forefront. We put ourselves in the way of harm to stand up for those society has marginalized. Pick a movement. MLK and anti-racism where Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner died standing up against racism ; Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem leaders of the feminist movement ; Larry Kramer and the fight for more AIDS research: these were Jews and Jewish leaders who at the forefront of the movements and put themselves in danger fighting for rights of those mass society wanted quieted.
But who is standing for Jews today? There are a few, Ritchie Torres being very prominent. But the list is very short. Why is that? It’s a serious question, why is that.
However, we have been on G-d’s green earth for over 5,000 years despite those who want us gone. We will fight for another 5,000.
Really interesting piece, Eve. I’ve always been supportive of the black and gay communities - and seeing them embrace antisemitism over the past 20 months has been extremely confusing and heartbreaking. 😞
It really is preposterous, perplexing, and alarming how antisemitic the pride parade has become.
"Milk" is a good movie, and not one I had expected to like when I first watched it, especially because Sean Penn is a gigantic POS. Even as a straight white guy, it's heartbreaking. I highly recommend it.
I just watched it and cried so much. Wow, heartbreaking is accurate.
Remember that Pride is deadly sin. Humility is a virtue. One of the first things that Rachel Goldberg-Polin (mother of slain hostage, Hersh) said at this years commencement at Yeshiva University was that she was "humbled." It's a must watch.
To Dana K: How proud is too proud? When does being proud turn into being a sin? Isn't being straight and thinking that you're above all gay people also a sin? Is it sinful that I don't want to be affiliated with batshit crazy gay people even though I'm gay? Who is more sinful? The batshit crazy gay person? The normal acting gay person? Or the straight person who has gotten a get out jail free card, since the dawn of time, just because they're straight?
Three thoughts if I may:
1. Pride -- like gay -- is a coopted word.
2. You didn't happen to include in your list of attributes for that hetero thingee that it's still the only way to reproduce.
3. I don't understand why it's any of my business what you -- or anyone else does in the bedroom as long it is mutually consensual -- which by definition excludes children.
Where were you 12-15 years ago that gay people were so marginalized? Over 40 years ago I was at Stanford Med School where some of the most respected folks-residents, faculty-were gay. 5 years later I worked with gay activists and heard their stories as we worked on AIDS treatments together. Maybe it was the Bay Area, but as a cis-het male, gay and lesbian colleagues were colleagues first. Hell, 15 years ago, in Pennsylvania I had a colleague from another country working in one of the biggest drug companies in the world who was obviously trans, and just did her job and was respected.
The 80s and 90s and 00s may seem like ancient history but at least where I worked. in medicine, medical research, and corporate drug development the ones in the closet were the homophobes.
(but not so much the 60s and 70s, where the were absolutely as you say). in 1980, at a Jesuit medical school a lesbian professor (and assiciate dean) spearheaded a humanizing approach and I was very proud to help her.
It was definitely bad in some places, but not everywhere.
It was still very much taboo in Hollywood I’m afraid to tell you. Warped that you would think otherwise.
As Miss Manners would have said— ´HOW VERY NICE FOR YOU’ I’m not in the Medical FIELD, nor am I a cis-straight male. I’m a lesbian from an early age whose mother freaked out when I was about 4-5 years old in 1957 because she realized I fancied girls. Despite forcing me into plastic ( fake ) patent leather shoes, little frilly short dresses, and trying to make me walk like ‘a lady’ dressing me up like her hero Shirley Temple the bratty little sickningly sweet child actress who oozed girly charm never managed to change me into a Barbie Doll loving sweet straight woman. So, my experiences and those of my friends were infinitély different. Despite growing up during and living through the Sex, Drugs and Rock-n-Roll era. I lived in many cities and held a variety of jobs and everwhere I went, homophobia ran rampant. From sophisticated Law Firms, Magazines, Ad Agencies, Design Firms, The State of California, so perhaps you led a sheltered existance, after all. 😎🇮🇱❤️